posted 11-28-1999 08:09 PM         

is it security that decides your course??

Probably smart: dwarfer and related family will be out of here pretty soon also: two years this December: long enough to have learned a lot: have made a contribution: and time to get gone rather than be "got gone."

Ala FJ, Spitterdude, etc.

good luck and may the wind be at your back!

posted 11-29-1999 06:48 PM         

Extraction woes are found and handled by new and more competent than I am:

posted 11-29-1999 08:33 PM         

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'Cuda65

posted 11-29-1999 08:43 PM         

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"the road of excess leads
to the palace of wisdom"
-William Blake.

posted 11-29-1999 09:34 PM         

Now strip the threads off a pop bottle, fit a fish aeration bubbler head oner the threads.

Design three to four auxiliary ports that flexable tubbing can be conected to, these might be employed into by drilling holes near the neck of the pop bottle, with available conecters for such tubbing, epoxy these into place and find sutiable corking devices or caps, simply crimping tubbing employed beyond these ports might be suffecient, with a sutabale clamp or locking pliers being employed.

Now two such containers make a unit, or tower, thus two of the bubbler heads are connected, these might be clamped into possition with a common hose clamp if necessary.

Thus one upside down bottle in line to a bottle right side up, each having the common design employed, the kitty ball can be assisted to entrainment by clamping with a hose clamp to sqish it or possibly rammed through a funnel, a washer might be handy, stuck through the ball is also a deployment of rubber band meterial like foung on the classic pong ball paddle ball.

preparing the reciving vessel........

pop bottle is filled with water or solution to capacity, then turning the bollte upside down water is allowed to evacuate through the open tube [ridged tube] the ball is snug agaist the neck from the inside, and held there and kept from floating by a ruber band which is snug between the top of the bubbler connected to the the top of the bottle.

thus the bottle is also squeezed to create a slight suck back, this pressure that air slips by the kitty ball is dependent upon the strength of the restraining ruber band, under no circumstance should air be allowed to suck back through the cappiliary tube or [ridged tube] thus at a certain potential of negative pressure air will suck into the bolltle by causing the kitty ball to pop up, this is in fact a pressure regulation device "a regulator"

So now the gas trapp bottle is prepared hook this to a ring clamp or whatever is handy, now the lower vessel is charged with solution to be electrolysed, this is ussually the same solution as the other solution, commonly is salt solution in any case, the bottom vessel is charged with solution, now through the conecters employed in the neck of the device is placed one of three things maybe four in total different things......

A port is for a wick for ion transfer
B port is for ellectricial wires
c port is for an extra wick for ion transfer
D port is an auxiliary port and is used for more advanced techniques such as emptying a solution from a seperate resivior within the appratus, such as a clay pot or other auxiliary device.

For ion transfer wick type meterial is strung through some flexiable tubbing, this resisting pressure changes due to the fact it is a cappiliary and is housed, pressure should not flow through here in any case because of considerable resistance, it thogh is not imposible for pressure to flow through such a device. Strug through the bottle port it is exposed to solution, ouside of port the rope is simmiliarly wrapped by flexible tubbing.

Wire is run through another port and this has the ellectrode employed, could be stripped from a battery, wires are splayed at one end and the electrode wrapped, flexible tubbing of adaquate size is stretched over the wires to seat them snuggly against the carbon ellectrode, this seals moisture out and could be glued with teflon containing epoxy if wanted, to seal it very well.

Now three such units are employed and interconected ussually from the negative or clorine producing vessel as the main unit, thus two wicks are ported and sent to the other positive or hydrogen producing vessels, this alows transport of ions through the solution wicked up by the rope therin deployed, the main vessel is ported for the wire to lead to anode, a cat ball with ruber band dangling free with ridged tubbing is alowed to float or simple sunk to the bottom of the solution it is help from floating by placing a clamping attachment or weight opon the protrudding ridged tube this pops out of the upper toper most section of the fish arreation device wich was attached to the pop top. and is also in line, this tube is not commonly restricted but may be by adding flexible tubbing to the upper end and clamping. The auxiliary port is not used in less advanced process, though it won't take long to achive the use of it--- is quickly recognized, this alows many diffferent uses, as well as evacuation of crystal substartes from the mother liqor easilly, usck a gel looking lye, which might be sucked out due to pressure positive and desicated into crystals at any or a later stage....

Hum so wicks lead from and to the vessels two and one each in/out from the respective units through the ports, gas flowing and created by electrolysis forces from pressure positive the kitty ball from the opper regulator up alowing mostly gas to be trapped in the upper pop bottle, as more pressure is sent into the vessel, sometimes a pressure is exerted from tempature and volume changes, thus taht more positive pressure must be employed by the lower vessel to get the kitty ball to pop up, no need to fear though as a little water drips out commonly as the kittly ball pops up, at a certain potential as long as a porus kitty ball is ussed, at a pressure potential water and mayebe even gas if all the water has been evacuated in any case...the pressure will can does flow through the kitty ball, this gas is trapped within the unit and water is simply shunted through the conecter between the bottles, this would be the same shunt as allowwing gas to be transported between the vessels...between the pop tops specifically the water in excess flows

The best part of this device!!!!

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hummm ok so reaching pressure potential of the upper flask[popbottle] evrthign is reaching apositve pressure potential and this pressure potential is relevant to the other ridged tube in the lower vessel the upper on is clamped in this case....

The the generating vessels has reached potential the auxiliary port could have a monometer hooked up, but this is not necessary, simply alow the solution to be expelled as gas is generated insitu as long as current is passing gas pressure is evolved and this positive pressure is forced up through the cappiliary which was stuffed through a kitty ball and help in the bottom of the solution, thus the flid is sorta pumped form the relevant pressures being generated until the ellectrode is no longer exposed to solution....thus nearly all of the solution can be cycled into the next ready set go container, as the orriginal container is full of gas, this gas might also be simmiliarly recycled stored or vented whenever the operator sees fit.....

The pop kity hardware can double as a automatic pop dispensing device with minimal reconfigeration giving it legitimat use for house dutty. Likewise this might be charged with fresh co2 from a cooker device or simply mixxng co2 and baking soda thus the spent pop can be recharged with ummm fresh gasses

I would like to name the vessel the.........

"Man-a-warf" APPLAUSE :

I would like as many people to build the device as are willing. Thus affording comfort and ease to there daily sceptics born living here on planet earth, no doubt many potential earthlings will enjoy building there replicas and maybe in the future such devices will be accepted into the "Clandestine Hall of ?-man" or something
May improvements and embelishments be as sand is to the seas, might someday be that soon a contest or CONQUEST! applicability of devices this day could be tommorow the public news of yesterday so spead the seed of whatever dream you might get from this as far and wide as it may be scattered, and may the replicate into a million unknown and unidentified weeds of such usefullness that it can not be comprehended at the pressent age, nor be recognized by the next.....

Hummm along the path I follow many who preceed me, allthough they do not think they participate...they[us/we] have trampled the ground so that our/my way would be easy......free from thorn thistles and so anyone lost or feeling alone can find there way to someplacee else or someone else upon it, thus discovering one of these things on a lucky day I gueese it might be cellibrated????A010

gee someone broke into my shit and deleted the extraction fax how unfortunate????

posted 11-29-1999 11:53 PM         

Again, congrats.

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posted 11-30-1999 12:02 AM         

Fuck man sink a road flare in bleach if ya must I cant belive it is gona come to this and worst, if not done soon this roadflarish stuff is gona be getting real crude and what mess I allready see a mess???

posted 11-30-1999 08:16 PM         

Do you realize how easy it would be for anyone with the code to start generally sending out code breaker????

Well its a simple mater to send such as myself a name blocker, this really only proves very little in my opinion, whoever it is, is kinda limp as of late hummm????

posted 11-30-1999 08:26 PM         

secondly after the kill code has been released to a user name why not reactivate it so another host or usser can posses it, this is to cool hum and only savy cool upity moderator types can do this humm????

Are you a cop is not really an intelligent question in my opinion? Just exactly to what end you persue this is to what? Censorship and competive spirt pall could be a deviant end to this parrade, how bout if I can get MDA OTC??? Why well then ya simply only need to learn one thing then chap, how to manipulate the string close in and a geometric looking molecule really doesent present much problem to critical thinking minds hummm...........

Whats you problem fuck face????

Have some preperation H you will feel beter I am sick of your mouthy mouth and I hope you keep you sassy name to because any known name around here is some trash man

Happy garbology there pal

In a divided electro the u tube is sulf functioning as proposed shielded from bubbles it is like an upside down water glass, in the unpressurized container, adding pressure adds a unique and not commonly contemplated resultant

posted 12-04-1999 01:20 AM         

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posted 12-05-1999 08:19 PM         

It will hold a lot of pressure, and
It will hold the pressure for days with no loss from leaking.

Can be assembled in a minimal length of time.
And looks not suspicious, at all.

The anti back flow valve, pressure gauge, and saftey pressure release valve are from welding, an oxyacetylene apparatus.

The water filter at most hardware stores ,it is available in a transparent plastic.

The rest is 3/8 or 1/2 inch brass, a bicycle tire valve, plastic tube, the solder is silver type and flux is used.

posted 12-05-1999 08:50 PM         

A phosphate ester tends to cleave more at the alkyl carbon and not at the acyl carbon.

The sulfonate esters cleave predominately at the alkyl carbon this will effectivly remove the oxygen from the ephedrine molecules.

Phosphoric acid and ephedrine make the ester and will cleave in acid solution
check out phosphlipids

Sulfonic acid may be used
Sulfonates are found in detergents like sodium lauryl sulfate is the ester of lauryl alcohol and sulfonic acid.
Friedal-Crafts

posted 12-28-1999 02:04 PM         

Anyway, have a great new year everyone. I'm off to the bush today to dance my arse off into the new millenium.

Take care,

posted 12-28-1999 04:13 PM         

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Everything in this post is for informational purposes only, and is not intended to facilitate illegal activity. I've done nothing illegal and nor should you.